Vincenzo's, definitely. I quite enjoy how snakey he is. He's quite powerful even if he appears harmless. I would love to see him be vulnerable at some point in the game (assuming the story allowed it) (yes, i'm saying make him cry, for fun). Edel seems very interesting too and, from reading other people's comments, he seems quite popular too, so I'd obviously play his route too. Still, hands down, Vincenzo first.
-What's your favorite scene/event?
I've seen someone say nothing jumps out, but actually I quite enjoyed the scene where MC is talking to the prince in Vincenzo's garden. If you choose to hold back, he will make a remark about Vincenzo being a snake and "moving fast" (although he doesn't seem like he'd be better than him), then the count swoops in to put an end to the interaction. If you choose to punch him, however, Vincenzo swoops in right away.
-Are you interested in playing the full release?
(The full game will be PAID)
Yes. Honestly, I usually come to itch.io because I enjoy being able to play great games without having to pay for them or, if the game is behind a paywall, there's usually a free DEMO of it on the creator's page. I grew up poor, so I'm always hesitant to pay for things like games. This is mostly out of fear of having "wasted money" if I end up enjoying them less than I thought I would. Playing this DEMO, I feel that it would be worth my money.
-Are the LIs villainous enough for you?
As of right now, they're both shrouded in mystery, so it's hard to discern whether they're "villainous" enough. Vincenzo reads as a manipulative, dangerous man, while Edel seems to always be one wrong word from murdering MC for his own amusement, so I would say so.
I think writing villains is quite hard when the public is meant to love them, if you make them too evil, they might become hard to enjoy, but if you make them too god they'll just be antiheroes. Still, I feel like you've found the perfects balance with both Edel and Vincenzo.
Just played the demo last night and loved it! The humor and self awareness of the MC makes it so fun. Both LI were really intriguing so I had a hard time choosing which to focus on for a bit. Count Brillhart (sorry, Count Vicenzo) is a babe. But then I saw Edel’s little murderous intent face and it was done. I’m locked in. I’m invested. And I’m eagerly awaiting the release of this full game.
My name is Zogar, and I am a fan of your visual novel Thorn for the Villain~ Reincarnated as an Extra in an Otome Game?!. I really enjoyed the story and characters, and I believe that Russian-speaking players would also love to experience your game.
I would like to ask for your permission to translate Thorn for the Villain into Russian. I have experience in translating visual novels, and I aim to provide a high-quality translation that stays true to the original writing. If you agree, I can share my progress with you to ensure that the translation meets your expectations.
Please let me know if you would be interested in this. I would love to help make your game accessible to a wider audience.
When are you planning to release it this year? Follow up! I really want to play the full version, but I cannot make purchases on itch.io... is there any future plan to adding it to steam or any other digital game site?
I still don't have an exact date at the moment. There's a possibility of another delay especially due to sudden unforeseen circumstances. I'll be posting a devlog announcement if there is already a date. Feel free to follow me on Bsky for more frequent updates.
As for Steam, that's already mentioned in the FAQs devlog (linked in the front page). I also have a Ko-Fi store where it'll also be released (and I believe they should also have more payment options).
"Whose route would you choose first? And why?" I am a rebel by heart, so naturally my first instinct was to refuse the guy who tried to stronghand his way into an engagement. (Although I DO admire him for his trick, I much prefer manipulation over force.)
That said, the Butler intrigued me right from the start. And he kept getting better at every turn. (and bad end) ^_^
-"What's your favorite scene/event? " Hrm... Nothing actually stands out in the Demo. Other than the Bad Ends of course. lol
-Are you interested in playing the full release?
(The full game will be PAID)
I'd happily pay for this game if it was on Steam. Doubly so if it was a really long game. I'd probably buy any DCL content too.
Unless, of course, it turns out that the love interests have some sort of hidden do-gooder motive shit. I am SO sick and tired of thinking a character is amazing and evil only to find out he's doing it to help orphans or save someone or have a robin hood complex or some other anti-hero shait. >_>
-"Are the LIs villainous enough for you?"
So far they seem to be. Provided I don't discover the above-mentioned later on in the game.
If he takes over the kingdom, he should be a tyrant, not a benevolent ruler.
If he's a killer, he should kill for profit, not for some justice/just cause. (If he is just loyal to his master and just plain enjoys killing, that's fine too.)
In short: A villain should never be able to truly justify their actions. (They may try to, but everyone sees a villain for a villain. Ask anyone, and they'll still say the Joker is a villain, regardless what the Joker justify his actions with. Same goes for every true villain out there.)
I don't know what the goals of that organization is, or why they do it, but I will be VERY happy if it's a plot to gain power because they are power-hungry, or get rich or any other selfish and self-centered goals.
(Or if the love interest leaders are exploiting everyone else in the organization, like the Joker does in the Clown War when he pretends he has some just cause but in reality he just want to burn Gotham down to lure batman back cuz he misses his beloved... Now THAT is a complicated love interest, and a posterboy for unhealthy relationships. ...not necessarily in a bad way, as long as it stays in a game. Which is something I don't say often. lol But I got off topic. My apologies....)
It's fine if they love the main character and want to treat her nice (although I am fine with them being a bit cruel as well, but people have different tastes there), but they shouldn't care about homeless people or starving puppies and whatnot.
So as long as they are what they appear to be in the Demo, then they are villainous enough. ^_^
(If you ever plan to make a yandere game, please tell me. You may actually manage to create a realistic love interest in it that is capable of both being nice and cruel based on if the mc accept or reject them. lol )
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As a side-note tho, I will say this:
I don't actually mind that Brillheart try and strongarm you into the stuff he does. I enjoy being able to rebel against it at every turn. It may be a little irritating, but there is a dark sense of pleasure in being able to lash out at him and reject him when he tries.
(I may even try his route at a later point. My admiration for him rises at every cunning and manipulative trick he pulls. I'm just stubborn when it comes to people trying to force me. lol)
The fact that you CAN lash out and reject him --or try-- that is a VERY good thing. It makes the game feel a whole lot better to play.
Even if it had come with a bad end, being able to rebel against things, even impossible to change things, feels very good.
I suspect the question if the villain is villainous enough can be answered with a no. But that's based on experience from other games.
So the real answer is this: Does he kill people for his own gain and NOT because of some moralistic ideal, or anti-hero shit? (Revenge can go both ways and depends on the scale of destruction.) Then he may -actually- qualify as a villain.
If he doesn't kill anyone, have a moral code, or in any way does not behave like a typical villain in, say, Marvel or Disney movies, he is not villainous enough.
The best villains will not care one whit if he kills just about every other person on the face of the planet. But assuming he's human (and not a psychopath) he will still be able to fall in love, and have a soft-spot for the one he loves. He will even kill to protect that person. But never change his wicked ways. That's what makes him a villain; he always puts himself first. (With his love interest a very close second of course, as this -is- a romance game. Think the Joker and Harley in Suicide Squad or Mad Love.)
(I have seen far to many anti-heroes passed off as 'villains' only to se the so-called 'villain' turn out to be a good guy or somehow misunderstood in the end. >_>)
But let's open the game before we judge it. lol
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The game have a very unique artstyle. Not as polished as most otome games have, but perhaps more atmospheric.
It's still very nice tho.
And well-written so far.
I look forward to see what makes such a big difference in the path of ditching someone that it requires an update. I honestly expected it to loop back to the main story and only cause a bit more trouble for a certain whitehaired man....
I would have said I'm annoyed that you can't refuse him --not because I dislike him (he intrigues me thus far)-- but because I like having choices.
But as that is clearly meant to come in the future, I'd rather applaud you for HAVING a choice. ^_^ ...even if I have to wait for it. lol
I DO like the butler tho. ^_^
Not that I mind playing with a skilled manipulator --that's always fun. But the butler seems much darker for some reason... (And a bit homicidal. ❤️ )
Ooooh~ I like the butler A LOT!!! ❤️ (Around the first bad ending.... Sadly for the same reason I ended up liking Mr. Gap in Homicipher.... Maybe I should talk to my AI theraphist about it. xD)
The best love interest are to die for~ ❤️
The timed answer was cunning tho.
I have to admit Brillheart is cute. And very tricky to figure out. Very unique character design. He does not fit any of the typical otome characters --I can spot those a mile away, and they're always the same. But Brillheart is different.
I recognize a predator when I see him, of course. But it's very subtle. Or rather; the shape of his darkness eludes me. This does not happen often. Color me intrigued. ^_^
I agree with the butler...his boss is too soft.
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I feared I had used up all the good games here. I'm happy to see this game proving me wrong. ^_^
I am also happy that the villains do seem like TRUE villains... although until I understand their motivations, it's hard to be sure.
Is this game available on Steam? Or will it be?
I only ever buy games there, but I really want this one. ^_^
Me diving headfirst for Edel's route because he's so my type it's ridiculous: Vicenzo get your sleazy ass out of my face I've got a hottie to be killed multiple times by!!
This is actually the first ever game that I've decided to spend money on (not even the sh*tty HoyoVerse pull rates could make me crack). I WILL not rest until the full game comes out and I've wifed Edel. I usually don't even like playing as a female character, but MC's hilarious and so relatable.
are we sure this isn't a horror game? because I'm playing it at 2 in the morning and got jumpscared by edel's tactics 😊😄
also, I knew the art style was somewhat familiar... i remember getting trapped with jester, no? both are gooodddd, I can't wait for this one to release thoo
Both Vicenzo and Edel are creepy, but if I had to choose... Vicenzo, as of the garden scene in my garden in the demo, he seems the least threatening of the LIs. They're both ok when they're not threatening me lol. Too early to judge my favorite scene. I might play the full release since I do tend to get hooked on trials, as long as they don't scare me sh****ss. Will I fall in love with them, who knows?
Just believe that you will have an OTP😌(couldn't help it 😂)
But if you've played my other (longer) games, you should more or less have an idea how I do romance, though of course, they're quite different archetypes from the ones I've made before.
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-Whose route would you choose first? And why?
Vincenzo's, definitely. I quite enjoy how snakey he is. He's quite powerful even if he appears harmless. I would love to see him be vulnerable at some point in the game (assuming the story allowed it) (yes, i'm saying make him cry, for fun). Edel seems very interesting too and, from reading other people's comments, he seems quite popular too, so I'd obviously play his route too. Still, hands down, Vincenzo first.
-What's your favorite scene/event?
I've seen someone say nothing jumps out, but actually I quite enjoyed the scene where MC is talking to the prince in Vincenzo's garden. If you choose to hold back, he will make a remark about Vincenzo being a snake and "moving fast" (although he doesn't seem like he'd be better than him), then the count swoops in to put an end to the interaction. If you choose to punch him, however, Vincenzo swoops in right away.
-Are you interested in playing the full release? (The full game will be PAID)
Yes. Honestly, I usually come to itch.io because I enjoy being able to play great games without having to pay for them or, if the game is behind a paywall, there's usually a free DEMO of it on the creator's page. I grew up poor, so I'm always hesitant to pay for things like games. This is mostly out of fear of having "wasted money" if I end up enjoying them less than I thought I would. Playing this DEMO, I feel that it would be worth my money.
-Are the LIs villainous enough for you?
As of right now, they're both shrouded in mystery, so it's hard to discern whether they're "villainous" enough. Vincenzo reads as a manipulative, dangerous man, while Edel seems to always be one wrong word from murdering MC for his own amusement, so I would say so.
I think writing villains is quite hard when the public is meant to love them, if you make them too evil, they might become hard to enjoy, but if you make them too god they'll just be antiheroes. Still, I feel like you've found the perfects balance with both Edel and Vincenzo.
I look forward to the full release, good job! ^^
Just played the demo last night and loved it! The humor and self awareness of the MC makes it so fun.
Both LI were really intriguing so I had a hard time choosing which to focus on for a bit. Count Brillhart (sorry, Count Vicenzo) is a babe.
But then I saw Edel’s little murderous intent face and it was done. I’m locked in. I’m invested. And I’m eagerly awaiting the release of this full game.
Dear Anta,
My name is Zogar, and I am a fan of your visual novel Thorn for the Villain~ Reincarnated as an Extra in an Otome Game?!. I really enjoyed the story and characters, and I believe that Russian-speaking players would also love to experience your game.
I would like to ask for your permission to translate Thorn for the Villain into Russian. I have experience in translating visual novels, and I aim to provide a high-quality translation that stays true to the original writing. If you agree, I can share my progress with you to ensure that the translation meets your expectations.
Please let me know if you would be interested in this. I would love to help make your game accessible to a wider audience.
Looking forward to your response!
Best regards,
Zogar
When are you planning to release it this year? Follow up! I really want to play the full version, but I cannot make purchases on itch.io... is there any future plan to adding it to steam or any other digital game site?
I still don't have an exact date at the moment. There's a possibility of another delay especially due to sudden unforeseen circumstances. I'll be posting a devlog announcement if there is already a date. Feel free to follow me on Bsky for more frequent updates.
As for Steam, that's already mentioned in the FAQs devlog (linked in the front page). I also have a Ko-Fi store where it'll also be released (and I believe they should also have more payment options).
waves! will we be able to get a male mc choice ever?
"Whose route would you choose first? And why?"
I am a rebel by heart, so naturally my first instinct was to refuse the guy who tried to stronghand his way into an engagement.
(Although I DO admire him for his trick, I much prefer manipulation over force.)
That said, the Butler intrigued me right from the start.
And he kept getting better at every turn. (and bad end) ^_^
-"What's your favorite scene/event? "
Hrm... Nothing actually stands out in the Demo.
Other than the Bad Ends of course. lol
-Are you interested in playing the full release? (The full game will be PAID)
I'd happily pay for this game if it was on Steam.
Doubly so if it was a really long game.
I'd probably buy any DCL content too.
Unless, of course, it turns out that the love interests have some sort of hidden do-gooder motive shit. I am SO sick and tired of thinking a character is amazing and evil only to find out he's doing it to help orphans or save someone or have a robin hood complex or some other anti-hero shait. >_>
-"Are the LIs villainous enough for you?"
So far they seem to be. Provided I don't discover the above-mentioned later on in the game.
If he takes over the kingdom, he should be a tyrant, not a benevolent ruler.
If he's a killer, he should kill for profit, not for some justice/just cause.
(If he is just loyal to his master and just plain enjoys killing, that's fine too.)
In short: A villain should never be able to truly justify their actions.
(They may try to, but everyone sees a villain for a villain.
Ask anyone, and they'll still say the Joker is a villain, regardless what the Joker justify his actions with.
Same goes for every true villain out there.)
I don't know what the goals of that organization is, or why they do it, but I will be VERY happy if it's a plot to gain power because they are power-hungry, or get rich or any other selfish and self-centered goals.
(Or if the love interest leaders are exploiting everyone else in the organization, like the Joker does in the Clown War when he pretends he has some just cause but in reality he just want to burn Gotham down to lure batman back cuz he misses his beloved... Now THAT is a complicated love interest, and a posterboy for unhealthy relationships. ...not necessarily in a bad way, as long as it stays in a game. Which is something I don't say often. lol
But I got off topic. My apologies....)
It's fine if they love the main character and want to treat her nice (although I am fine with them being a bit cruel as well, but people have different tastes there), but they shouldn't care about homeless people or starving puppies and whatnot.
So as long as they are what they appear to be in the Demo, then they are villainous enough. ^_^
(If you ever plan to make a yandere game, please tell me.
You may actually manage to create a realistic love interest in it that is capable of both being nice and cruel based on if the mc accept or reject them. lol )
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As a side-note tho, I will say this:
I don't actually mind that Brillheart try and strongarm you into the stuff he does.
I enjoy being able to rebel against it at every turn.
It may be a little irritating, but there is a dark sense of pleasure in being able to lash out at him and reject him when he tries.
(I may even try his route at a later point. My admiration for him rises at every cunning and manipulative trick he pulls. I'm just stubborn when it comes to people trying to force me. lol)
The fact that you CAN lash out and reject him --or try-- that is a VERY good thing. It makes the game feel a whole lot better to play.
Even if it had come with a bad end, being able to rebel against things, even impossible to change things, feels very good.
So you are clearly doing something right.
So kudos! ^_^
Oh, hey! You have the Trapped With Jester game!
Should have known you were able to create a true villain then. ^_^
I like that game. Kinda wish it was longer tho.
I suspect the question if the villain is villainous enough can be answered with a no. But that's based on experience from other games.
So the real answer is this: Does he kill people for his own gain and NOT because of some moralistic ideal, or anti-hero shit? (Revenge can go both ways and depends on the scale of destruction.)
Then he may -actually- qualify as a villain.
If he doesn't kill anyone, have a moral code, or in any way does not behave like a typical villain in, say, Marvel or Disney movies, he is not villainous enough.
The best villains will not care one whit if he kills just about every other person on the face of the planet.
But assuming he's human (and not a psychopath) he will still be able to fall in love, and have a soft-spot for the one he loves. He will even kill to protect that person.
But never change his wicked ways. That's what makes him a villain; he always puts himself first.
(With his love interest a very close second of course, as this -is- a romance game.
Think the Joker and Harley in Suicide Squad or Mad Love.)
(I have seen far to many anti-heroes passed off as 'villains' only to se the so-called 'villain' turn out to be a good guy or somehow misunderstood in the end. >_>)
But let's open the game before we judge it. lol
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The game have a very unique artstyle.
Not as polished as most otome games have, but perhaps more atmospheric.
It's still very nice tho.
And well-written so far.
I look forward to see what makes such a big difference in the path of ditching someone that it requires an update.
I honestly expected it to loop back to the main story and only cause a bit more trouble for a certain whitehaired man....
I would have said I'm annoyed that you can't refuse him --not because I dislike him (he intrigues me thus far)-- but because I like having choices.
But as that is clearly meant to come in the future, I'd rather applaud you for HAVING a choice. ^_^
...even if I have to wait for it. lol
I DO like the butler tho. ^_^
Not that I mind playing with a skilled manipulator --that's always fun.
But the butler seems much darker for some reason...
(And a bit homicidal. ❤️ )
Ooooh~ I like the butler A LOT!!! ❤️
(Around the first bad ending.... Sadly for the same reason I ended up liking Mr. Gap in Homicipher.... Maybe I should talk to my AI theraphist about it. xD)
The best love interest are to die for~ ❤️
The timed answer was cunning tho.
I have to admit Brillheart is cute.
And very tricky to figure out.
Very unique character design. He does not fit any of the typical otome characters --I can spot those a mile away, and they're always the same.
But Brillheart is different.
I recognize a predator when I see him, of course.
But it's very subtle.
Or rather; the shape of his darkness eludes me.
This does not happen often.
Color me intrigued. ^_^
I agree with the butler...his boss is too soft.
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I feared I had used up all the good games here. I'm happy to see this game proving me wrong. ^_^
I am also happy that the villains do seem like TRUE villains... although until I understand their motivations, it's hard to be sure.
Is this game available on Steam?
Or will it be?
I only ever buy games there, but I really want this one. ^_^
Honestly, both Edel and Vicenzo are cute but generally...so is my brother
I like the art! Also it's nice that the game aknowledged twins of different genders usually look differently.
I am so going for Edel first xD He is the type of bully who enjoys teasing the girl he likes and I'm here for it xD
Also Eric is my spirit animal, I love him ♥
Me diving headfirst for Edel's route because he's so my type it's ridiculous: Vicenzo get your sleazy ass out of my face I've got a hottie to be killed multiple times by!!
This is actually the first ever game that I've decided to spend money on (not even the sh*tty HoyoVerse pull rates could make me crack). I WILL not rest until the full game comes out and I've wifed Edel. I usually don't even like playing as a female character, but MC's hilarious and so relatable.
I got into playing this game after seeing that "Truck-kun strikes yet again!" :D that got me hooked!
are we sure this isn't a horror game? because I'm playing it at 2 in the morning and got jumpscared by edel's tactics 😊😄
also, I knew the art style was somewhat familiar... i remember getting trapped with jester, no? both are gooodddd, I can't wait for this one to release thoo
I mean, I did consider adding the horror tag, but people who are looking for horror might get disappointed 😂
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I adore it so so much, cant wait until its finished!
Edel screw u for killing me 4 times 😡 But also I cant choose between them cause their both fineee. 👀
I love the game though!
is there a way not to die?
Yeah. Check the comment thread here:
https://itch.io/post/11475268
IM SO HOOKED ALREADY FROM THE DEMO !! this is too good i literallt went crazy oh my goddd I CANT WAIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I choose final boss and did he just imprisoned me in his house?!!But I love Vicenzo tho🥲🤌(I played demo version)
The story is interesting
Both Vicenzo and Edel are creepy, but if I had to choose... Vicenzo, as of the garden scene in my garden in the demo, he seems the least threatening of the LIs. They're both ok when they're not threatening me lol. Too early to judge my favorite scene. I might play the full release since I do tend to get hooked on trials, as long as they don't scare me sh****ss. Will I fall in love with them, who knows?
Just believe that you will have an OTP😌(couldn't help it 😂)
But if you've played my other (longer) games, you should more or less have an idea how I do romance, though of course, they're quite different archetypes from the ones I've made before.